bullion silver coins?
assuming USD = CDN then When you buy a 1 oz Bullion silver coin with a value in Canadian dollars how much is it actually worth at 17$/oz
Is it worth only as the value of silver?
Is it worth because of the surplus on it
Is it worth what people are willing to pay for it and therefore buying them at -25 is worth it because as the price of silver goes up, there should be a surplus of value.
Thank you
Derek
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This coin simultaneously has two, entirely separate values:
* The value of 1 Troy ounce of .999 fine silver, plus or minus whatever premium or discount might apply when selling it to a particular buyer.
* $5 in Canadian currency, its legal tender value in Canada.
That also happens to be its floor value; it’ll always be worth that, even if (hypothetically) the price of silver were to plummet to levels last seen a decade ago.
Those two values are *either/or*, not added together. So the coin is worth about US $17 (the approximate value of a Troy ounce of silver today) - plus any premiums or minus any discounts from spot silver you might encounter when selling it - *or* 5 Canadian Dollars as legal tender when spent in Canada (also coincidentally worth about $5 US at current exchange rates).
As another example, Canada issued a set of Olympic commemorative coins in 1973-76, for the Montreal Olympics of 1976. Those .925 Sterling Silver coins are legal tender at their face values of $5 and $10 Canadian, respectively, and contain about .72 and 1.44 Troy ounces of silver respectively. Those coins have the closest correspondence between face value and silver value - among high purity American and Canadian silver coins - that I know of. They also used to be available at huge discounts to spot on eBay, but no longer .
Finally, as alcan52 astutely points out, you shouldn’t have to pay $23-$25 (if that price doesn’t include tax and/or shipping and insurance) for the Canadian $5 silver Maple Leaf bullion coins; they are widely available for prices closer to the silver spot price. In addition to Monex, I checked another dealer, Kitco, and their price was $19.14 on a day when the silver spot price was $16.89.
well, you can’t cash it in after you melt it, so it won’t be worth the face value PLUS the value of the silver.
but I doubt that the coin is pure silver, or people would have started melting them down when they were worth $6.
the coin is probably just nickel coated with silver.
I just bought 100 Canada maple Leafs in silver for exactly the reason you state. However they do not trade at that price. I paid $18.66 a piece for the coins I got and they are currently trading for $18.61 at Monex where i bought mine. They are the purest silver in the world at 99.99%. The American coins are less pure and trade for a higher price with a face value of 20% of the Canada Maple Leaf Coins. It makes no sence to buy the American coins that are of lesser purity and smaller face value. In a dollar collapse the preimium and your concept in your example of adding the $5 face value to the coin in survival situation/dollar collapse would be done. I think the market would demand that especially because fiat currencies will still be used. So you logic would be used in that fashion for these coins. Also I live in Alaska and we do not border the Lower 48 but we do border Canada. Alaska would have to rely on Canada for trading purposes in a dollar collapse. They have a more stabe government and economy and they pay down thier national debt. In the future Canada currency and Canada Maple Leafs will trade at a higher rate. Go with the Maple Leafs.